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TDI Oil Selection Simplified

Oil Selection Simplified

505.00, 505.01, 507.00 – What do these mean?  10,000 mile oil change interval?  Really?  5W-40, 5W-30, 0W-30, which is better?

Driving a VW TDI means questioning and sometimes tossing out some long-held beliefs about oil and oil change intervals (OCI).  Pulling into your local quick-lube store and letting them put whatever’s in the drum below the floor into your car can be disastrous to your TDI.  We’re going to try to make it simple and help you choose the oil your TDI requires.

Why is Correct Oil so Important?

If you drive a TDI you already know it’s a remarkable engine.  Few, if any other engines offer a comparable combination of power, economy, and longevity.  However, several aspects of the TDI’s design make it hard on oil.

First, the TDI’s high compression puts its piston rings very close to the point of combustion.  Engineers soon learned that conventional oils could leave deposits, or coke, on the piston rings, which would jeopardize their function, increasing oil consumption.

Second, Oil is the life blood of a turbocharger.  If oil cokes or gathers residue then it can clog the turbo oil feed line, starving the turbo of oil and ending its life.  Not a good thing.

Third, newer TDIs (‘04 and later) have injection systems that are generate very high fuel injection pressures but are also hard on camshafts.  These cars require oil that can keep cam lobes lubricated in that high pressure environment.

Fourth, TDIs emissions systems have become much more sophisticated in recent years, requiring oils to be refined without components that can harm those systems.

Finally, all manufacturers are after maximum fuel economy and the longest possible oil change intervals in all their cars, and keeping oil in cars longer while providing the best possible fuel economy figures put additional demands on oils.

Oil Standards and Specifications

VW has established and tests oils to standards it has set for its engines.  There are several other industry standards for engine oils, but for simplicity we’ve stuck with VW’s standards here along with oil viscosity measures that are commonly used in the US.

Will oils that do not meet or include VW standards work in your TDI?  Probably.  Oils that meet other standards such as ACEA or API may be fine for your VW.  In fact, some owners purposely use oil that does not meet VW’s specifications because they believe it’s better for their TDIs than the ones VW certifies.   Just keep in mind that VW may ask for proof that your car has used only oil meeting their standards in the event of a warranty claim.

Synthetic versus Non-Synthetic

This distinction is not as simple as you may think.  Although all the oils that meet the standards in the chart above are considered synthetics, many of them may start with mineral oil base stocks, or esters.  You’ll see terms like “synthetic technology,” or “pure synthetic,” on labels.  But once again, if it meets the standard, it’s OK.  And in the world of TDIs, if it meets the standard it is going to be synthetic oil.

Diesel Versus Gasoline

There’s a simple point here: Diesel engine oils have different requirements because, in part, of the need to keep soot in suspension in the oil between changes.  You’ll notice that the oil in your TDI turns black very quickly after a change.  That doesn’t mean it’s dirty, it is keeping the soot the engine generates in suspension.  The presence of that soot is an oil design consideration.  There are many oils that meet both gasoline and diesel standards, but beware of oils that are designed only for gasoline engines, even if they are synthetic.

Oil Selection Simplified

Match the Rating to Your Engine

The table below lists the TDIs sold in North America and years they were sold, the oil they require, and some (not all) of the oil brands that offer oils that meet the standard.

Model/Years Engine Type/Code Oil Standard Suggested Brands/Weight
1996-1997 Passat

1996-1999 Jetta

Rotary pump injection TDI, Codes 1Z, AHU 505.00 Castrol SLX Professional, Lubro Moly Synthoil Premium, Pentosin, Total Quartz Energy 9000, Mobil 1, 5W40, 0W40, 0W30
1999.5-2003 Golf, Jetta, New Beetle Rotary pump injection TDI, Code ALH 505.00 Castrol SLX ProfessionalLubro Moly Synthoil Premium, Pentosin, Total Quartz Energy 9000, Mobil 1, 5W40, 0W40, 0W30
2004-2006 Golf, Jetta, New Beetle

2004-2005 Passat

Unit Injection, or Pump Deuse (PD) TDI, Codes BEW, BHW 505.01 Castrol SLX Professional, Lubro Moly Top Tech 4100, Pentosin High Performance II, Total Ineo MC3, 5W30, 5w40
2009 and later Jetta and Golf TDIs Common Rail, Code CBEA 507.00 Castrol SLX Gold, Total 504/507, Lubro Moly Top Tech 4200, Mobil 1 ESP, 5w30

The brands listed here are not exhaustive, there are others.  And there are yet more oil brands that claim to be “designed for engines with 505.00 (or 505.01) oil requirements”, or words to that effect.  Just keep in mind that if the VW standard isn’t printed on the label, the oil probably hasn’t been certified by VW.  It’s your choice whether or not to use that oil.

What about 506.00?

VW has a 506.00 standard for oils that were considered good to use in cars that require 505.01 oils (PDs), and was also specified for the V-10 Touareg.  This was a 0W30 weight oil that helped improve fuel economy.  However, 506.00 oil was very expensive and did not match the lubrication or protective standards set by 505.01, and has been phased out.  The Lubro Moly Top Tech 4200, a higher 507.00 specification oil, is also specifically approved for vehicles requiring 506.00 and 506.01.

What about Weight?

Europe and America use multiple viscosity ratings for oils.  And there are a couple of trends in the oil industry when it comes to viscosity:

  • Oil viscosity numbers are getting lower
  • Lighter weight oils work better than they used to at high temperatures

Emissions and fuel economy requirements have, in many cases, driven manufacturers to use lighter weight oils.  Since EPA measures include a cold start, light weight oil helps cars perform better in that test.  Also, engine tolerances are much tighter than in past years.  Thinner oil (especially when cold) can help provide lubrication during those first few critical seconds after a cold start.  And today’s synthetics provide much better protection when hot than mineral-based oils did, even if their viscosity rating is lower.  For example, 5W30 weight oil is considered fine for all driving conditions in PD and Common Rail TDIs, even in the desert in summer.

505.00 oils (for rotary pump TDIS) have the widest viscosity ratings of VW oils, and include 0W30 and 0W40.  Although 5W40 oil is most popular in this category, many owners in cold climates like using 0W30 or 0W40 in winter.

And both 5W30 and 5W40 oils are available for oils meeting the 505.01 standard (PDs).  Both are fine for use in all climates, although some owners prefer 5W40 over 5W30.

10,000 miles?  Really?

All TDIs have a 10,000 mile oil change interval (OCI) after break-in.  After generations of 3,000 mile OCIs many owners have difficulty accepting the 10,000 mile interval as safe.  But 10,000 miles has proven to be a more than reasonable interval.  Many owners run their oil longer.  TDIs are proving to last many hundreds of thousands of miles without major wear using a 10,000 OCI with the correct oil, and many feel it’s wasteful to change it more often.

Soot build up is the primary reason for oil breakdown in diesels.  As oil advances further technologically the different specifications have been increasingly tolerant of high soot levels in the oil.  This results in many european vehicles with flexible service intervals to go 30,000 miles or more between oil changes.

Summary

Simple enough.  If your car:

  • Has a rotary injection pump, use oil that meets VW’s 505.00 standard
  • Is a PD, use oil that meets VW’s 505.01 standard
  • Is a Common Rail, use oil that meets VW’s 507.00 standard

Diesel on!

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  1. brent says

    ok here’s another question….. If i have a 2001 GOLF TDI ALH engine, can i use 507.00 spec oil in it? is it like API ratings, where the higher rating always encompasses the previous lower ratings?

    • Corey@IDParts says

      Correct – the 507.00 is approved for all previous specifications as well, 505.00, 505.01 and 506.01. The 2001 Golf specified 505.00 so the 507.00 will work just fine.

      507.00 stuff is expensive though! Our pick for year 2006 and earlier is the Pentosin High Performance 2 (also called the HP2). Its a great 5w40, and it also meets all the latest Mercedes diesel specifications too.

    • Paula says

      I was told by my local Jetta Dealership/Service Dept. that my Engine Cam Shaft has gone out. WIll cost over $2,000.00 to replace. All because a mechanic at F_r_s_o_n_e. put the wrong oil in my 2005 Volkswagen Jetta TDI. I’m having a nightmare.

  2. Jon Hunt says

    Schaeffer 5-40 9000 is 505.01 classed.I use it 2006 TDI jetta.5000 mi between changes.My previous car 12000 between changes,schaeffer 5000.

  3. Alan says

    Why do I hear about so many dealers using the wrong oil during change? Some even after owner states use 507 only?

  4. Kenny G says

    2006 VW Beetle PD

    I just change the oil and filter – Castrol SLX Professional OE 5-30W VW 502/505/ 505.01

    The engine now has new noise – like a vibration/ rattle espcially at idle.

    Any ideas?

    • Gene says

      Dual Mass Flywheel ?? They go out.

  5. Joe says

    We have a 2004 TDI Beattle, but only get 32mpg no matter what the driving condions. The routine air filter change did nothing to the fuel mileage. Ay ideas?

    Thanks.

    • mike says

      i get a consistent 39.6 with Chevron Diesel with an occasional bump to 42 never figured out why though…mine is 06 auto beetle tdi…still trying to figure out how to reset the CEL light

  6. Ben says

    2002 Passat TDI. The way I read the Match Your Rating to Your Engine table, that year is left out for Passats. Just used the Rotella T (blue bottle) 5w40 but cannot tell for sure that is OK after reading all these posts. Am i good, or what?

    • Corey@IDParts says

      Hi Ben, that is because in the USA there was no TDI model in 2002. There was a 1996-1997 and 2004-2005, but thats it.

    • David says

      I have a 2005 Passat TDI and I have used Shell Rotella (blue bottle) 5w40 since I purchased the car new. I change the oil every 5k miles and I have 290,000 miles on the engine. The car is driven in Washington DC/Annapolis Maryland traffic. The oil has served me well and I recommend the oil. I just purchased a 2011 Jetta TDI which I will use the same oil in after the 36K free oil change progam expire.

      • tom says

        In the 2011 tdi you need to use 507.00 approved oil. Castrol is the best for that. good luck

        • Corey@IDParts says

          Any 507.00 will work well. I’m not a big fan of how Castrol does business in the US & with VWoA so I don’t use their products.

          I like Liqui Moly, Pentosin, Total and of course Mobil 1 ESP 5w30.

  7. Mike says

    I have had several German diesels, from MBZ, Volvo, and a 2005 VW Golf TDI. The old Volvos used a VW diesel engine by the way. I have racked up many miles with these excellent machines. I use Schaeffer’s 5w40 on the VW TDI and Mercedes. I studied all the widely available VW spec 505.01 oils. I was invited to a Schaeffer oil demonstration that was utterly amazing. While I won’t argue what is the “best” oil—many very good ones like Lubro Moly and Total for example. I settled on Schaeffer’s because of how it fights friction better than anything I’ve ever seen tested, and it has proven to sustain a high TBN throughout the life of the oil. I’ve used their lab testing service to verify correct drain intervals on several occasions and monitor engine wear—I do not believe in extended drain intervals without periodic testing or just for the sake of bragging rights—it needs to make sense. The test(s) showed engine wear metals in the oil as ppm and my numbers have been exceedingly low at 10K intervals with plenty of oil life remaining in the oil. The test showed that I could go significantly higher between changes, but I have determined that the 10K interval provides a reasonable drain interval with minimal chemistry depletion. My MBZ engine had a timing chain replaced and the MBZ master mechanic could not believe that the engine looked almost new and utterly clean of deposits. My TDI appears to be in similar condition! I first heard about Schaeffer when a heavy-equipment diesel mechanic friend said it was the best kept secret—something this guy swore by as an engine rebuilder of CATS and Cummins engines. Since then, I found a good sales rep in Seattle. My only complaint was that finding a factory rep was initially hard but they’re around.

    • Corey@IDParts says

      Years ago there was a big push for UOA (used oil analysis) on TDIClub and the major european brands all came though with fantastic results. At 10k none of the oils showed any wear or breakdown.

      I know of TDI owners with over 600k on their cars that have used Rotella the whole time, I know dozens of owners over 400k that swear by Total products. They are all very good.

  8. Raymond says

    I have 05 dodge cummins so what oil u recoment.

  9. Paula says

    Can putting the wrong oil in a 2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI make the turbocharger stick? I went to Firestone for an oil change. I told them my car had to use Synthetic oil only. They says that used Synthetic oil; however, I believe theyused the wrong weight. My car began to run loud the next day. Firestone changed the oil again and used a different oil. They then told me that it wasn’t the oil, but it was the turbocharger sticking.

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